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Arnold Parguelenger's avatar

Interesting take, I do agree that just banning social media to teenagers is a lazy approach.

Suicide is a complex phenomenon for which science can inform but will likely be far from a panacea. If you take positivist sociology from the XIX century seriously Protestants will always have a higher likelihood of killing themselves than Catholics.

It's hard for any study to determine how social media is used, giving the layers of irony baked into certain content, especially in racist and self-harming circles. So yeah, you mount a good case to remain skeptical given the poor evidence and assumptions of blanket statements like those of the New Yorker article.

Yet, what is concerning to me isn't so much the linear relationship between social media usage and teen suicide, but how this tech alters how we think and socialize.

It's broadly clear that online discussion isn't about clearing the fog of ignorance as much as it is about amplifying the depth of already held assumptions, as Godwin’s law or this very comment section already indicates.

This tendency, paired with the drive of companies to increase the engagement and attention spent in their platform with algorithmic tools -that try to get you what you want, or make you want - may lead to echo chambers that reinforce a pathological relationship with social media.

Without being reductionist or implying that going back to a golden era will solve our problems, it becomes necessary to try to hold the diverse contradictions social media creates: where kids today connect in a completely different way to previous generations, which sometimes will turn into extraordinary positive art and collective action, and others, may just make them drown in the cesspool of hate and self-damage. This may just be happening right now by using the very same platform.

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kiron's avatar

I have been following the debate between Jon Haidt and his critics. IMO both stories are valid. We don't have evidence of causality yet but both social factors and social media seem like valid confounding factors.

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